lazerbem

Mar 5 2015, 09:04 PM

Nagito Komaeda

Mar 5 2015, 08:17 PM

lazerbem

Mar 5 2015, 08:03 PM

Cui can beat Vegeta at equal powers, if not through skill, through foul play. Then he'll assist one of his teammates and then they triple team the remaining Saiyan.

And Vegeta just going with Cui's trick makes no sense, why would he actually look rather shocked and turn around? Surely it's more intimidating to just ignore his tricks and walk up to him?

Did Vegeta learn how to sense energy between fighting Cui and fighting Dodoria? He's able to just fine when he's up against the latter, so unless he got some practice in between the two, it doesn't make sense that he'd fall for the trick. Regardless, Zarbon doesn't seem like the type of character to try something like that, so even if Vegeta is stupid in that regard, it doesn't factor into the fight.

His energy sensing wasn't perfect and he had a pathological fear of Freeza. Why wouldn't he whip around and check if Cui was talking real or not.

Why would Zarbon go for Vegeta? At equal powers, Cui is more likely to go after Vegeta given that they are rivals.

Another disadvantage for the saiyans is Raditz's tail, the Freeza goons must know about that weakness and at equal powers, it'll be a breeze to exploit.

lucrowe

Mar 5 2015, 09:08 PM

The winner goes to the team who knocks somebody off first I reckon. it's impossible to predict who that would be, but i think the weakest link out of everybody here is nappa. He's tough as nails but as thick as a brick. In an equal fight i can see him going down first. With the extra rover on freeza team, radtiz and vegeta go down. I see team freeza winning this one. Not easily, but a win no less

Nagito Komaeda

Mar 5 2015, 09:22 PM

lazerbem

Mar 5 2015, 09:04 PM

Nagito Komaeda

Mar 5 2015, 08:17 PM

lazerbem

Mar 5 2015, 08:03 PM

Cui can beat Vegeta at equal powers, if not through skill, through foul play. Then he'll assist one of his teammates and then they triple team the remaining Saiyan.

And Vegeta just going with Cui's trick makes no sense, why would he actually look rather shocked and turn around? Surely it's more intimidating to just ignore his tricks and walk up to him?

Did Vegeta learn how to sense energy between fighting Cui and fighting Dodoria? He's able to just fine when he's up against the latter, so unless he got some practice in between the two, it doesn't make sense that he'd fall for the trick. Regardless, Zarbon doesn't seem like the type of character to try something like that, so even if Vegeta is stupid in that regard, it doesn't factor into the fight.

His energy sensing wasn't perfect and he had a pathological fear of Freeza. Why wouldn't he whip around and check if Cui was talking real or not.

Why would Zarbon go for Vegeta? At equal powers, Cui is more likely to go after Vegeta given that they are rivals.

Another disadvantage for the saiyans is Raditz's tail, the Freeza goons must know about that weakness and at equal powers, it'll be a breeze to exploit.

His sensing doesn't need to be perfect; Freeza's strong enough for anyone to pick up. Even if he only had a basic grasp of how it worked, he'd be able to tell if a person with a huge power was standing right behind him. He had his scouter on as well, and that didn't pick anything up in the near vicinity, so he had no reason to believe that Freeza was actually there.

Everyone was talking as if each of these battles were separate. Even if Cui went after Vegeta;

Chapter: 247 (DBZ 53), P15.4
Context: talking about Vegeta and Kui fighting
Zarbon (?): “Their abilities should be more or less equal, so no matter what happens Vegeta won’t get away unharmed.”

Zarbon's saying that Vegeta is the better fighter out of the two. Cui is 'more or less equal' to Vegeta, but if there is an advantage, it belongs to Vegeta. Otherwise Zarbon would've made some comment about Cui winning instead of stating that Vegeta wouldn't get away unharmed.

Southern Gothic

Mar 5 2015, 11:58 PM

Nappa may be a brute but he seems to take direction from Vegeta well enough. That being said, characters in DBZ usually fight one at a time. If that is the case, I don't see Nappa's rage being an issue, and gives the Saiyans a better chance.

In an all out melee though, yeah, I can see the PTO goons getting the win.

lazerbem

Mar 6 2015, 12:34 AM

I don't think the PTO will fight one on one. Dodoria and Cui are honorless and will absolutely try to double team whatever saiyan swaggers up first. It's going to turn into a brawl

Southern Gothic

Mar 6 2015, 12:46 AM

lazerbem

Mar 6 2015, 12:34 AM

I don't think the PTO will fight one on one. Dodoria and Cui are honorless and will absolutely try to double team whatever saiyan swaggers up first. It's going to turn into a brawl

I get that you're putting a lot into Team PTO being dirty fighters and how that would effect the outcome.

But what about the ability to work together? Team Saiyan has been fighting alongside each other for a long while up to this point. The three of them spent a lot of years going from planet to planet, tearing it up. Not to mention that they arent exactly saints in their own right.

Overall I do agree that PTO wins an all out brawl, mostly cause of Raditz being the one person here with an obvious weakness. I only wanted to add that the Saiyans seem to have a better resume of working together.